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PostSubject: LaDD question???   Thu Sep 24, 2009 8:23 pm

Its a drag posting it in here

ok here is what it looks like
My opponent has a sangan and a giant germ in the field
He used them as tribute for LaDD
I chained with BTH(Bottomless trap hole)


Will LaDD negate all effects??

So it should like this
(I am really not sure on which goes first(just my oppinion)

sangan's effect will resolve LaDD will negate, BTh will resolve , LaDD negates again

it will resolve backwards

Ladd eff (negates BTH)
BTH
LaDD eff (negates sangan)
Sangan

In my opinion BTH will resolve succesfully
(Its just my opinion)

The effect of sangan that will resolve in the grave will go first
LaDD will trigger and negate the effect of sangan
BTH will try to remove LaDD

SO it looks like this
(SInce LaDD effects already triggered it cant trigger again)
sangan's eff will go first , LaDD's will negate it , BTh will resolve

it will resolve backwards so it looks like this

Bth will destroy and remove from play LaDD
Since LaDD is no longer in the field
Sangan's eff will resolve opponent can search for a card XD(what a waste)

So which is correct?
Will LaDD negate all effect or will LaDD be destroyed and removed from play???

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PostSubject: Re: LaDD question???   Thu Sep 24, 2009 8:53 pm

Well, LADD's effect is a Trigger Quick monster Effect, a speed 2. But, it's not a Multi-Trigger Quick Effect though, so it can only be activated once in each chain.

So, LADD will negate BTH since it's chain link 2, and LADD is chain link 3. Now we have, BTH(negated), LADD Effect, in the chain. Sangan's effect is Chain Link 1.
BTH(negated by LADD), LADD Effect, Sangan's Effect. As you see, LADD's effect has already activated in this chain, so it cannot be activated again, so LADD will only negate BTH's activation.

An example of a card that can be active more than one time per chain is, Horus LV8.( Multi-Trigger Quick Effect)

Horus is on the field, BoM is played, Horus is chain, let's say a Shrink is chaine to Horus's effect, so, Horus's effect will be the fourth chain link in this Chain since it's a Multi-Trigger effect(can be active more than one time per Chain).

The chain will resolve like this, Horus, Shrink(negated by Horus), Horus, BoM(negated by Horus). And so on.
I hope I helped.
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PostSubject: Re: LaDD question???   Thu Sep 24, 2009 10:12 pm

I thought that LaDD negates the first one to resolve, so if sangan resolves first then LaDD will negate it right???
Then this will happen
kneil_20 wrote:
In my opinion BTH will resolve succesfully
(Its just my opinion)

The effect of sangan that will resolve in the grave will go first
LaDD will trigger and negate the effect of sangan
BTH will try to remove LaDD

SO it looks like this
(SInce LaDD effects already triggered it cant trigger again)
sangan's eff will go first , LaDD's will negate it , BTh will resolve

it will resolve backwards so it looks like this

Bth will destroy and remove from play LaDD
Since LaDD is no longer in the field
Sangan's eff will resolve opponent can search for a card XD(what a waste)

So which is correct?
Will LaDD negate all effect or will LaDD be destroyed and removed from play???

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PostSubject: Re: LaDD question???   Fri Sep 25, 2009 2:21 am

kneil_20 wrote:
I thought that LaDD negates the first one to resolve, so if sangan resolves first then LaDD will negate it right???
Then this will happen
kneil_20 wrote:
In my opinion BTH will resolve succesfully
(Its just my opinion)

The effect of sangan that will resolve in the grave will go first
LaDD will trigger and negate the effect of sangan
BTH will try to remove LaDD

SO it looks like this
(SInce LaDD effects already triggered it cant trigger again)
sangan's eff will go first , LaDD's will negate it , BTh will resolve

it will resolve backwards so it looks like this

Bth will destroy and remove from play LaDD
Since LaDD is no longer in the field
Sangan's eff will resolve opponent can search for a card XD(what a waste)

So which is correct?
Will LaDD negate all effect or will LaDD be destroyed and removed from play???


bth resolves first just so you know
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PostSubject: Re: LaDD question???   Fri Sep 25, 2009 8:38 am

LADD doesn't negate the resolution of any effect. It negates the Activation.
Look Kneil, as I said earlier, LaDD is Trigger Quick Effect, not a Mult-Trigger Quick Effect, meaning it's effect can only be used one per chain.

Well, I have an alternate theory now, I think I made a mistake in my last post. Sangan's effect is Chain Link 1 for it's conditions were met the first, then LaDD's effect is Chain Link 2 because of the turn player's priority, and BTH is Chain Link 3, which is chained to LaDD's effect. LaDD can not negate BTH since his effect has already been activated, LaDD will be removed from the game, and Sangan's effect will resolve normally because LaDD is no longer on the field.
Again, hope I helped.
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PostSubject: Re: LaDD question???   Fri Sep 25, 2009 8:42 am

so the chain will look like this?
summoned LaDD
Chain link 1: BTH
Chain link 2: LaDD's effect
Chain link 3: Sangan's effect
-end-
resolve backwards
Chain link 3: Sangan's effect will resolve
Chain link 2: LaDD's effect (negate BTH)
Chain link 1: BTH
-end-

WHy would BTH goes first? It is my opponent's turn so will his effect goes first(sanga's effect)?

WHoa we posted in the same time
Unkown wrote:
LADD doesn't negate the resolution of any effect. It negates the Activation.
Look
Kneil, as I said earlier, LaDD is Trigger Quick Effect, not a
Mult-Trigger Quick Effect, meaning it's effect can only be used one per
chain.

Well, I have an alternate theory now, I think I made a
mistake in my last post. Sangan's effect is Chain Link 1 for it's
conditions were met the first, then LaDD's effect is Chain Link 2
because of the turn player's priority, and BTH is Chain Link 3, which
is chained to LaDD's effect. LaDD can not negate BTH since his effect
has already been activated, LaDD will be removed from the game, and
Sangan's effect will resolve normally because LaDD is no longer on the
field.
Again, hope I helped.


SO you agree with me that LaDD will be removed from play and sangan's effect will resolve normally...

kneil_20 wrote:
Bth will destroy and remove from play LaDD
Since LaDD is no longer in the field
Sangan's eff will resolve opponent can search for a card XD(what a waste)

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